CO129-590-11 Commission of Enquiry into irregularities in Immigration Departments 22-4-1941 - 19-12-1941 — Page 272

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Q. You say that number tickets were not given out between 9 and

11 &.m.?

A. Yes. You start at 11 instead of 9.

A.

Q.

At 9 o'clock and thereafter every hour I went out personally

and distributed these numbers?

I am not speaking of the numbers for getting entry permits, only

I was there and never of the numbers for getting pack deposits.

saw such a number distributed.

i did this

But i was there every hour distributing them. personally because of allegations of corruption amongst the staff

After 11 o'clock.

A.

Q.

On the occasion when you allege that someone was ejected, did you see me handing out tickets inside the main door?

A.

No.

Q. You don't speak Cantonese? Only Mangiai dialect and Kuo Yu?

A.

I don't speak Cantonese.

Q.

A.

Then you didn't hear this man who was ejected swearing in

Cantonese?

As far as I could hear he was not scolding anyone.

Q. Didn't you hear him swearing and shouting at the top of his voice)

A.

His voice was not as loud as yours.

Mr. W.H. Chen: Referring to the evidence given this morning, dr. Ma

Tsui Chiu said that I was in the room and interpreted for him. I wish to rebut that statement. I was not in the room at the

time, and the actual interpretation was done by Mr. Peter Mok, who is a friend of Mr. Ma and who volunteered to take him in to

see the Immigration Officer.

Chairman: I am a little uneasy on one point. Your first question to Mr. ma Was: "Are you sure that I was the interpreter?". Later on you said "Do you remember that I said to you so and so?" Mr. Chen: I was not referring to the same occasion.

Mr. Chan Kwok ding:

I am Chief Clerk in the Immigration oflice. After we had got

a certain number or clerks we ceased asking for more.

Our

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